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“Facts are important. I’m a facts person. If your whole candidacy is based on words, it should be your own words.”–Clinton Steps Up Attacks on Obama

Delivered on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 by Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator, at the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq war rally (organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq) at noon in Federal Plaza in Chicago, Illinois; at the same day and hour that President Bush and Congress announced their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War.–Wiki

Who knows if Obama had been in the U.S. Senate along the side of Hillary Clinton if he would have voted “Yes” or “No.” An anti-war rally platform is far different than the pro-war rally of the U.S. Senate platform. Senator Dick Durbin voted “No.” I would say that based upon that fact, Mr. Obama would have followed suit.

New York City at least told Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton “No” War. Did they listen to us? Did they even read the original NIE as Bob Graham and others who voted “No” did? See “Did Senators read pre-war Iraq Intel Report?

3,615 U.S. TROOPS KILLED
and 50,677 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007, Unknown news

“Perhaps my decision is influenced by my eight years of experience on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, in the White House, watching my husband deal with serious challenges to our nation.” It was not a coincidence that Clinton invoked her time in the White House, or her husband’s record. Bill Clinton served as her main counsel on the Iraq war vote.”– [words she shouldn't have used]–Hillary’s War

785,957 IRAQI CIVILIANS KILLED
and 1,414,723 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007, Unknown News

“Only four senators — Feinstein, Rockefeller, Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa and Senator Herb Kohl of Wisconsin — voted yes on Levin’s resolution and then voted yes on Bush’s war authorization. If Clinton had done that, she subsequently could have far more persuasively argued, perhaps, that she had supported a multilateral diplomatic approach.”–Hillary’s War

In the US Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent who courageously voted their consciences against the war in Iraq:


California

Barbara Boxer (D)

Florida

Bob Graham (D)

Hawaii

Daniel Akaka (D)

Daniel Inouye (D);

Illinois

Dick Durbin (D)

Maryland

Barbara Mikulski (D)

Paul Sarbanes (D)

Massachusetts

Ted Kennedy (D)

Michigan

Carl Levin (D)

Debbie Stabenow (D)

Minnesota

Mark Dayton (D)

The late Paul Wellstone (D)

North Dakota

Kent Conrad (D)

New Jersey

Jon Corzine (D)

New Mexico

Jeff Bingaman (D)

Oregon

Ron Wyden (D)

Rhode Island

Lincoln Chafee (R)

Jack Reed (D)

Vermont

Jim Jeffords (I)

Patrick Lehy (D)

Washington

Patty Murray (D)

West Virginia

Robert Byrd (D)

Wisconsin

Russ Feingold (D)



“The Bush Administration must not circumvent Congress on the critical issue of the future U.S. presence in Iraq. The Administration must not be permitted to enter into agreements that could lead to permanent bases in Iraq which would damage U.S. interests in Iraq and the broader region without Congressional approval.” – Senator Hillary Clinton December 6, 2007 security agreement with Iraq legislation

September 2007
Clinton voted Yes
Obama did not vote (he was campaigning for President in New Hampshire)

to support a resolution declaring Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite part of the Iranian military, a foreign terrorist group. (The nonbinding amendment to the Defense Authorization Act passed by a 76-22 vote.)

May 2007
Both vote no

on legislation funding Iraq war without troop withdrawal timeline

March 2007

Obama justifies Change in Iraq War funding using support for troops rationale.

March 15, 2007

“Look, I think the American people are done with Iraq. … ..” Hillary Clinton

January 20, 2007

“It is important at this point that Congress offer specific constructive approaches to what’s proven to be a foreign policy disaster, because we’ve got too much at stake to simply stand on the sidelines and criticize.”–Barack Obama to the AP

2002 vote for Iraq War

Clinton voted Yes and in 2007 offers the following apology:

if she had known in 2002 what she knows now about Iraqi weaponry, she would never have voted for the Senate resolution authorizing force

Obama was not a member of the Senate in 2002:

“But I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.”–Obama to the New York Times in declining to comment on John Kerry and John Edwards support for 2002 war resolution against Iraq

Hillary Clinton Quotes on Iraq
Hillary Clinton on War & Peace

Barack Obama on War & Peace



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